The banks and their lawyers better watch out

Februarie 23, 2012 in Sonder kategorie

I have been following this case with interest, as well as the one that Scott Cundil is involved in. Apart from that I am now at a stage with my own case where the Banking Ombudsman needs to make an adjudication regarding my compaints against MFC/Nedbank and their unlawful practices.

 

From Michael:

STD Bank South Africa VS Michael Tellinger

29 July 2011 In November 2010 I started a series of communication with Standard Bank of South Africa Limited. It has been an interesting twist of events and after 3 un-rebutted and unanswered affidavits from me to the bank, instead of simply answering a few questions, they eventually took action against me with an application for Summary Judgement.

 

I responded with a motion to defend and after 3 months of waiting to go to court, I finally appeared in my defence against STD bank on Friday 29th July 2011. I took the stance that the Bills of Exchange Act should be applicable to all and that I should have the same rights to apply it, the same way that the bank does.

 

I claim that I settled the full amount with a Liquid Negotiable Instrument as specified in the Bills of Exchange Act and therefore the matter is closed and the bank should honour my mortgage payment.

 

This was the first time in SA that any such motion has NOT been thrown out by the judge. All previous cases have either been thrown out or have simply disappeared off the court records. I was also the first Layperson to defend himself against the bank and a team of the most experienced and highest paid lawyers money can buy, in the Johannesburg Supreme Court of South Africa.

 

The fascinating thing is that the lawyers from Deneys Reitz attorneys told the judge it was an open and shut case and would not last more than 15 minutes. After a 2,5 hour argument the judge broke for an hour. When we got back, we all expected a judgement and I was quite prepared to face the usual negative outcome – WELL, this did not happen. Judge Van Oosten, was clearly intrigued by the arguments and said he could not rule on the case and needed to THINK about it. We expect the judgement to be delivered by Friday this week.

 

BUT the most crucial part of this story is that I did not ask for a settlement by the bank – I changed my desired remedy to be that we take this matter to TRIAL so that we can call in expert witnesses and be allowed to cross examine bankers so that everyone can learn about their fraudulent activity. I also specified that I want the judge to afford me my constitutional right to a fair trial, according to the Bill of Rights.

 

http://www.businessmasters.co.za/showthread.php/2417-Cundill-at-it-Again-You-owe-the-Bank-nothing.

 

http://micro2.majesticinteractive.co.za/bf.php?fid=1115 (Please download and listen to the actual recording made in the motion court. Michael represented himself)

 

Blikskottel: cannot wait as many more cases like this is being prepared for court.

9 antwoorde op The banks and their lawyers better watch out

  1. Jy laat my dink. Is dit die Michael T wat die alien boek geskryf het?

  2. TS het gesê op Februarie 23, 2012

    Ek dink die ou met die meeste geld sal wen

  3. Ja dit is Neander. Hy is stir crazy. Hy is ook die Tellinger van daai Stirling & Tellinger groep van die eighties.

  4. As almal saamstaan het ons die meeste geld en mag. Die keer het die banke te ver gegaan. Dis hoekom ons almal in die ekonomiese gemors is.

    Die keer gaan niks stop tot geregtigheid nie wen nie. Geld se gat.

  5. Neander; Ja. Gaan luister gerus na die opname van die hofsaak. Jy sal verbaas wees or hoe goed hy dit uiteen gesit het.

  6. Johan: Het jy ooit moeite gedoen en gaan luister na die hof opname? Daai ou is verseker nie mal nie en daar is baie ander wat ook sake aan die gang het…ek ook.

    Die enigste malles is die wat nie bereid is om dinge te ondersoek en self te sien wat aangaan nie.

    Ek het ‘n brief wat ek graag sal plaas wat duidelik wys dat banke nie geld leen nie, maar krediet skep uit niks, behalwe die handtekeninge van lenings aansoekers. Natuurlik is dit van ‘n advokaat, sommer die ene wat die banke se dinge wetlik moet hou, Blackbeard is sy van.

  7. Ja ek het Blikskottel. Hy gaan die saak met koste verloor. Hy moet maar sy skuld betaal.

  8. Vat my raad en betaal jou skuld Blikskottel. As jy op Tellinger se gronde weier gan jy ook jou saak met koster verloor.

  9. Ek het nog nooit geweier om my skuld te betaal nie. Volgens wet het ek egter die reg om enige iemand wat reken ek het skuld, te verplig om dit te bewys.

    Lees gerus die wette van ons land rondom dit. Om te weier om “debt validation” binne die wet te verskaf is ‘n misdaad en dis presies wat die banke besig is om te doen.

    Sal graag wil hoor of ons local prokureur dink ek is verkeerd oor dit.

    Al wat ons nodig het is dat die saak in ‘n hofsaak oorgaan. getuienis sal dan die laaste woord kry. Waarvoor is die banke so bang vir dit en hoekom oortree hulle die wet?

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